Curse

arsie · Feb 14, 2008, 06:11 AM // 06:11

I guess I am kinda inbetween a casual player but less hardcore than many. I put in about 3hrs per evening in this game for the last year or so.

I have never bought any 15k armour, nor any rare skin weapons or rare minipets. (I did a trade for a Devourer once...don't ask.) I do not indulge in any of the goldsink titles such as Drunked and Sweettooth, nor the latest fireworks one. Hence, my expenditure is almost nil. The odd rune here and there, only ever bought one Superior Death (the rest I salvaged) and never bought a Superior Vigor (got two or three in my time).

I've got 6 characters and all their heroes are tooled out with max weapons, quite a few greens, and near-perfect golds of more common skins.

On the other hand, I have not farmed at all. The closest thing I have done to farming was the recent Canthan New Year quests, which I did on all the characters, but alas no rat. I did get about 20k of gold by selling the resulting fireworks.

I don't think I have farmed anything more than 10 times, thats how easily I get bored. The exception is probably SSLB wurm farming.

I've always been comfortable, if ever a 15k armour piqued my interest, I would be able to afford it. The Nightfall treasure chests put me up almost 100k, but I have only done it once or twice. Vanquishing and HM really did boost my savings up double or triple. Now I can afford FoW or Vabbian armour if I so fancy. But no, they don't look that great.

Comfortable middle class, I assume I am.

Abedeus · Feb 14, 2008, 06:11 AM // 06:11

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Too bad that graph doesn't apply so well to "Time>Skill" anymore.

Well, you can replace Price with Time and Importance with Skill. Hey, it checks out - the time is now price, and important thing... Nah, whatever.

I'm average player - I have 15k sets on 4 of 6 pve chars. Few nice weapons (dead sword that I have gotten before they were overfarmed - worth 50k at the time), not many titles (they're IMO crap), 150k in storage and 850k fb.. Oh, wait, fail. Nevermind.

wetwillyhip · Feb 14, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

10 level 20 characters across all professions. 675k in vault. 31 months of play. not average?

arsie · Feb 14, 2008, 06:25 AM // 06:25

The thing about teh GW world is that it costs you ZERO to live in the GW world. Absolutely nothing, in gold terms ($39.99 per campaign tho).

Transport is free, lodgings are free, weapons are free, armour cost 5k++.

You want a Salvage Kit or Identification kit? Grab your Monastery Credit or Kournan Coin or whatever and off you go. Skills kinda pay for themselves, by the time you get to a boss to get a cap, you've come close to paying that 1k for the cap signet. Or there's always Hero Skill Trainer.

Anet has gone out of their way to make the GW world completely cost-free, for the average joe. Gold was a little tight the first time you were crossing the Shiverspeak, but after that, you'll never need to worry ever again.

Anything that actually cost any gold are ornamental. The only circumstance where gold can improve your game is if you bought a kazillion Lunar game ticket things to pump up your Lucky title so that you can retail your lockpicks. No wait, the merchant weapon is just as good, better yet, the collector weapon.

GW gives you more than enough gold to swim in it, and occasionally splash out on a trinklet.

Iuris · Feb 14, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34

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Anything that actually cost any gold are ornamental. The only circumstance where gold can improve your game is if you bought a kazillion Lunar game ticket things to pump up your Lucky title so that you can retail your lockpicks.

Hmm, I have to calculate after how much time the lucky title actually pays off...

AuraofMana · Feb 14, 2008, 08:40 AM // 08:40

I used to play GW to farm until I had nothing else I want in the game. Having everything you ever want is a big turn off to GW :/

Fay Vert · Feb 14, 2008, 10:33 AM // 10:33

I don't think people's wealth in the game is a meaningful measure of the economy, or the game.

THhere seems to be an over inflated importance of this quasi economy, and ANet have used "protecting the economy" as an excuse for nerfing some of the fun out of the game, that simply can't be wrong. I'd rather have a fun game with a mucked up economy than a good economy game which isn't much fun.

$neekie · Feb 14, 2008, 11:10 AM // 11:10

Im probabely casual player, dont do titles, dont have 15k armor(although im looking into it

), few chars, never did any elite areas, best drop ive got were a 20/20(made30k on that)swordpommel and 3 black dyes oh and a bonedragon for my bday......but im keeping that.Oh and a crap load of stuff,probabely worth 50k, just to lazy to sell it. Just not a expensive taste i guess.

But my cash never goes below 30k, i make money salvaging and selling materials(rare and commen) just surf trough the diffrent sales areas, make a few quick sales. For the rest pick up everything, merch it

Never had any problems with cash, although i never had more then 90k

mzzls

Hell Raiser · Feb 14, 2008, 12:37 PM // 12:37

I used to swim in cash back in the SF days (before factions), then factions was released. After that I only played during big updates, new campaigns, or big events, usually able to earn a bit of money with each one. I can't farm anymore, though, it just bores me after 3-5 runs.

So now salvaged my 1 set of FoW, and 2 sets of 15k (Can't bring myself to salvage the other 4 15ks), bought a new 15k, and now I'm sitting on about 23k. I don't play enough to care though, GW has been dying since titles were released. It was made with great intentions, which is why I'm still here, but imho, it kind of drifted away from it's original design (Skill > Time played, for example). I just hope GW2 can redeem this game for me.

Gold, schmold, I want my pudding.

~ Dan ~ · Feb 14, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

I roughly have 10-20k. Only time i save up is when there's something worth saving for. Then i buy that item and become broke again. My money is in itemz and titlez.

Div · Feb 14, 2008, 01:08 PM // 13:08

I am now officially broke.

Quru · Feb 14, 2008, 01:11 PM // 13:11

I'm an average player i guess. I have 30k at storage, my main have 2 elite sets, some nice skinned caster swords/axes, nice choice of staffs etc. I'm not into titles so no money sink there. I like just spoil my necro (main), i buy new weapons and offhands/shields, I think I'm going to get some new elite armor set to him when i hit 100k etc.etc.

Jetdoc · Feb 14, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

The brutal truth is, this is an RPG where you honestly don't need money to play.

Anything over 10k is purely for eye-candy. It's a system I hope will go into GW2...

Absolutely. I personally love the fact that any player can be just as good as another with hardly any gold...between collectors, cheap armor, skill tomes, etal...it's insanely easy to be "totally pimped out".

People that normally whine about money are those that want some of the rarest skins or novelty items in game...which, for the most part, probably stems from the fact that they are the rarest items in the game.

By that, I mean the typical unconscious thought path could be...

1. I want a sword.
2. Hmmm...I like how that sword looks.
3. But wait...it's a very common sword skin.
4. I wonder what is a more uncommon skin.
5. Hmmm...people are saying the Crystalline sword is hard to get.
6. Gosh, if it is that rare, maybe it's worth having.
7. Wait...you're telling me that a good one costs 400K+?
8. Wow, that's expensive.
9. Wait - I really WANT that sword.
10. Why is the sword skin that I truly love have to be so expensive?
11. That's not FAIR!
12. That's it, I'm going to complain. It's ridiculous that I will never have the chance to get the one sword skin that I've always loved.

:sigh:

Mordakai · Feb 14, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

That's it, I'm going to complain. It's ridiculous that I will never have the chance to get the one sword skin that I've always loved.

:sigh:

Ironically, everyone who owns Prophecy can get a non-max Crystalline sword from a quest.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Prize_Moa_Bird

I mean, if all they want is the look...

Estic · Feb 14, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

The brutal truth is, this is an RPG where you honestly don't need money to play.

Anything over 10k is purely for eye-candy. It's a system I hope will go into GW2...

QFT just because it's, well, true.

Having said that, getting enough money means (IMHO) either:

1. You know how to make money (trading/farming).
2. You put time into the game.

For me, it's 2. I make about 2k per hour, without trying. Really, it's easy. Go out in a max level area (everything after the Desert/Shing Jae/Istan) and do a quest or just randomly kill stuff in a full team. Picking up everything and sell it (after id'ing it all, even the whites) and including the gold that just drops you have about 2k (low guesstimate I think). If you play on average 1 hour a day (probably less during the week, more in the weekends if you have a normal day job) you have 1 piece of 15k armor (more or less) at the end of the week. That means you have a full 15k set in 4 weeks (or a month).

Personally I play, give and take, 15 hours a week. So that means I can get, just from drops, a full 15k set in about 2 weeks. If you collect the better upgrades (15^50, -5(20%), 20% FCT/HSR) and sell them in bulk for a low price you can make about 5k-10k extra in a normal week without having to waste much time.

However, this will not enable you to buy anything you want in a reasonable time frame. You have to prioritise. If your goal is a 15k set don't buy things you don't need, like keys, superior vigor, expensive skin, etc. This way you will make it in about a month (playing on average 7 hours a week). If you absolutely have to have a mini panda though I can only advise the following: patience. Set aside everything you get and then, when GW2 comes around, you might be reaching the stage where you can start bidding for a mini-panda.

Maybe

.

Gregslot · Feb 14, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

For you people that have more gold/ectos/shard/etc then you would want to or know what to do with it, i have a solution for your problems.
Give me your ectos and shards and help me finish my obsidian armor! Thats the only reason why i am saving gold, i alreayd have have the other armors i want to!
If you do so i will be your friend!

About the topic:
I got 300k and saving for fow armor, after that i will not need gold.

Kusandaa · Feb 14, 2008, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by Estic

However, this will not enable you to buy anything you want in a reasonable time frame. You have to prioritise. If your goal is a 15k set don't buy things you don't need, like keys, superior vigor, expensive skin, etc. This way you will make it in about a month (playing on average 7 hours a week). If you absolutely have to have a mini panda though I can only advise the following: patience. Set aside everything you get and then, when GW2 comes around, you might be reaching the stage where you can start bidding for a mini-panda.

Maybe

.

I think it's the problem of a lot of people, they're everywhere and can't focus on anything. They want everything, and some don't want to make the effort it requires. "I'm going to get FOW armor" requires, as I was saying before, dedication - I stop buying lockpicks (which is, outside of my armor "needs", the thing I spend a lot of money on), I deal with the weapons and armors I already have (I'm not much of an impulsive buyer anwyays, except for armors), I set aside other projects (I wanted to buy a mini Naga Raincaller and wanted para FoW... I've postponed me getting a mini Naga)...

... And I make my cash. I farm because I want to PLAY the game and not powertrading (and because I enjoy farming). In the end, I feel like I've accomplished something. Then I have a 2-3 day downtime before I get another goal. I can set the speed to suit my needs. 1 week for my para's FoW, I was sick all week... 3 weeks for my monk's because I wanted to do other stuff aside. People wonder how I do it... well that's what I do. Also helps when you have several characters that you can use to make money.

I don't NEED the armor set. I don't need anything beyond max AL armor, which doesn't cost much (to me anyways). But I want it and it gives me a reason to actually play and enjoy the game.

Kingof the mice · Feb 14, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

I rarely have more than 30K at once and I've only spent about 100K in a year of playing.

silv3rr · Feb 14, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

1,825 hours in 25 months which is approximately 2.4 hours a day. Although I'm very on and off, there would be months when I'd be totally obsessed spending around 5-6 hours a day on GW and then there are months (like the past 2 months) where I wouldn't spend more than 5 minutes on a day.

Anyways, I have around 600k right now... don't really know why I've been saving, there's nothing "expensive" that I'm saving for.

I find the "leet" (no Crystallines and FoW armor for me thank you very much) gear to be ugly and pointless.

I guess I'll blow that on a r9 Clockwork Scythe for my level 3 Dervish

My first 100k... I blew it on some 15k armor.

7hir7een · Feb 14, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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I will dance in the Lion's Arch cages for spare change.

If only that worked....hehe

Yeah, the most I've ever had in my entire Guild Wars career was 40k. Needless to say I have much less than that now. I tend to run near-broke almost permanently.

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

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By that, I mean the typical unconscious thought path could be...

1. I want a sword.
2. Hmmm...I like how that sword looks.
3. But wait...it's a very common sword skin.
4. I wonder what is a more uncommon skin.
5. Hmmm...people are saying the Crystalline sword is hard to get.
6. Gosh, if it is that rare, maybe it's worth having.
7. Wait...you're telling me that a good one costs 400K+?
8. Wow, that's expensive.
9. Wait - I really WANT that sword.
10. Why is the sword skin that I truly love have to be so expensive?
11. That's not FAIR!
12. That's it, I'm going to complain. It's ridiculous that I will never have the chance to get the one sword skin that I've always loved.

:sigh:

While I do realize that is the case for most players, sadly it wasn't for me and my eyecandy-desiring. I wanted the silverwing bow for my ranger as soon as I saw it on the wiki. It was only after I browsed some forums quite a bit later that I realized it would cost more money than I'll probably ever have at once. BMP ftw I guess. Looks like I'm never gonna get the silverwing lol